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	<title>Comments on: Why can&#8217;t we have energy labels for all electronic devices?</title>
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		<title>By: GreenMonk talks Eco Labels with Fujitsu Siemens' Bernd Kosch</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenMonk talks Eco Labels with Fujitsu Siemens' Bernd Kosch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] labels are something I have written about previously on GreenMonk and I believe they are vital to helping consumers make informed choices when buying [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tom Raftery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Raftery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob,

thanks for the link - I checked out the label and I think it is a nice idea, however, what would be great is if the CO2 emissions associated with production, usage and end of life were displayed prominently.

We want quantitative, standard (easily comparable) labels to help us reach a purchasing decision.

Anything else is smacks of obfuscation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,</p>
<p>thanks for the link - I checked out the label and I think it is a nice idea, however, what would be great is if the CO2 emissions associated with production, usage and end of life were displayed prominently.</p>
<p>We want quantitative, standard (easily comparable) labels to help us reach a purchasing decision.</p>
<p>Anything else is smacks of obfuscation.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoebe Bright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoebe Bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We certainly need an easy to understand ratings system.  I guess the work is in defining what an A or a D rating is for each item of equipment.  If you set the A to high, manufacturers scramble to get to that level but there is no incentive to go further. An ambitious target is better, but meets more resistance from the manufacturers.  

Reading your post I was reminded of the Minergie standard for buildings that was developed in Switzerland, originally by an individual but is now run as a company.  Maybe there is room to do something similar with appliances.  Once we have cheap measuring equipment we can share how much our Blue Ray DVD costs to run compared to yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We certainly need an easy to understand ratings system.  I guess the work is in defining what an A or a D rating is for each item of equipment.  If you set the A to high, manufacturers scramble to get to that level but there is no incentive to go further. An ambitious target is better, but meets more resistance from the manufacturers.  </p>
<p>Reading your post I was reminded of the Minergie standard for buildings that was developed in Switzerland, originally by an individual but is now run as a company.  Maybe there is room to do something similar with appliances.  Once we have cheap measuring equipment we can share how much our Blue Ray DVD costs to run compared to yours.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading your blog, I thought that you might be interested in HP's work on an "Eco Label."  http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/globalcitizenship/environment/productdesign/ecohighlights-label.html
 
We will be rolling this out over time, and will eventually include most product categories in all divisions.  Also looking for ideas on how to improve it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading your blog, I thought that you might be interested in HP&#8217;s work on an &#8220;Eco Label.&#8221;  <a href="http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/globalcitizenship/environment/productdesign/ecohighlights-label.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/globalcitizenship/environment/productdesign/ecohighlights-label.html</a></p>
<p>We will be rolling this out over time, and will eventually include most product categories in all divisions.  Also looking for ideas on how to improve it.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddy De Clercq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddy De Clercq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Good point. There is no reason why it shouldn't be done. Then we finally will know how energy efficient electronics have. As mentioned in my &lt;a href="http://www.grumpyoldman.be/greater-circulation/" rel="nofollow"&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt;, even Europump, the European Association of Pump Manufacturers, has an Energy Efficiency Index to show how efficient their circulation pumps in central heating are.

Eddy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Good point. There is no reason why it shouldn&#8217;t be done. Then we finally will know how energy efficient electronics have. As mentioned in my <a href="http://www.grumpyoldman.be/greater-circulation/" rel="nofollow">blog</a>, even Europump, the European Association of Pump Manufacturers, has an Energy Efficiency Index to show how efficient their circulation pumps in central heating are.</p>
<p>Eddy</p>
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