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	<title>Comments on: The Return of the CEO (Chief Electricity Officer)</title>
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		<title>By: SAP Needs CEO&#124; Zoli&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://greenmonk.net/the-return-of-the-ceo-chief-electricity-officer/comment-page-1/#comment-2478</link>
		<dc:creator>SAP Needs CEO&#124; Zoli&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 06:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (12/5): More on the Chief Electricity Officer of James&#8217;s Green Blog. Oh, and here&#8217;s the photo, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: James Governor&#8217;s Monkchips &#187; The Return of the Chief Electricity Officer</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Governor&#8217;s Monkchips &#187; The Return of the Chief Electricity Officer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on Greenmonk yesterday I wrote a piece that I think is worth flagging here. What&#8217;s the big idea? Just as Nick Carr argues the IT [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on Greenmonk yesterday I wrote a piece that I think is worth flagging here. What&#8217;s the big idea? Just as Nick Carr argues the IT [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Deadalus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deadalus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 05:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google is the biggest offender - from what I heard from an industry source, Google has lobbied against disclosing their carbon emissions, and are lobbying (along with Intel) to obstruct transparency in the industry. They are bigtime polluters, hoping to avoid the scrutiny they deserve... put solar panels wherever you want, it aint going to make a dent in 2,000,000 servers and storage spindles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google is the biggest offender &#8211; from what I heard from an industry source, Google has lobbied against disclosing their carbon emissions, and are lobbying (along with Intel) to obstruct transparency in the industry. They are bigtime polluters, hoping to avoid the scrutiny they deserve&#8230; put solar panels wherever you want, it aint going to make a dent in 2,000,000 servers and storage spindles.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Raftery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Raftery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@monkchips - just to elaborate on the A+ rated domestic appliances - don&#039;t necessarily think on/off. Remember, you could always shift the thermostats up or down depending on whether you wanted to stimulate or reduce demand.

In an industrial setting think about refrigeration plants. Get them to consume energy by turning on their compressors (by reducing the temp on their thermostats) when grid demand is low and then come off the grid (by increasing the temp on their thermostats) when demand is high.

Now you have just created an energy store!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@monkchips &#8211; just to elaborate on the A+ rated domestic appliances &#8211; don&#8217;t necessarily think on/off. Remember, you could always shift the thermostats up or down depending on whether you wanted to stimulate or reduce demand.</p>
<p>In an industrial setting think about refrigeration plants. Get them to consume energy by turning on their compressors (by reducing the temp on their thermostats) when grid demand is low and then come off the grid (by increasing the temp on their thermostats) when demand is high.</p>
<p>Now you have just created an energy store!</p>
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		<title>By: monkchips</title>
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		<dc:creator>monkchips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>holy cow now that is what i call a blog thread. cheers guys. interestingly BT, for one, is thinking through a some of this-for example trying to move from &quot;Always on&quot;.. to &quot;always available&quot;.

the container angle is very interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>holy cow now that is what i call a blog thread. cheers guys. interestingly BT, for one, is thinking through a some of this-for example trying to move from &#8220;Always on&#8221;.. to &#8220;always available&#8221;.</p>
<p>the container angle is very interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Raftery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Raftery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about an A+ rating for household appliances?

These appliances would come on and go off depending on the load on the network at any particular time i.e. more likely to come on on a windy night when wind energy is making a significant contribution to the grid and less likely to come on on winter evenings between 4pm and 8pm (when there is peak demand).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about an A+ rating for household appliances?</p>
<p>These appliances would come on and go off depending on the load on the network at any particular time i.e. more likely to come on on a windy night when wind energy is making a significant contribution to the grid and less likely to come on on winter evenings between 4pm and 8pm (when there is peak demand).</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about energy ratings on all I.T. kit like the ratings on household items</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about energy ratings on all I.T. kit like the ratings on household items</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would imagine also that most Saas or similar services have an environmental/energy cost as a significant portion. I would&#039;nt be surprised to see Google  leveraging efficiencies  on this front as a competitive argument. 

It could almost come down to $5 + YKjoules  or X carbon units per user per month or some such

Regards
Al</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would imagine also that most Saas or similar services have an environmental/energy cost as a significant portion. I would&#8217;nt be surprised to see Google  leveraging efficiencies  on this front as a competitive argument. </p>
<p>It could almost come down to $5 + YKjoules  or X carbon units per user per month or some such</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Al</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how much energy BT could save nationally by migrating from their twisted pair network to efficient optical fibre into homes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how much energy BT could save nationally by migrating from their twisted pair network to efficient optical fibre into homes.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Raftery</title>
		<link>http://greenmonk.net/the-return-of-the-ceo-chief-electricity-officer/comment-page-1/#comment-2468</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Raftery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly, data centres could be used by grid management companies as a flywheel to stabilise the grid and lessen the instability introduced by the addition of wind energy. 

If those data centres ran their diesel generators on bio-diesel you would have green energy facilitating the uptake of more wind energy on the grid!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly, data centres could be used by grid management companies as a flywheel to stabilise the grid and lessen the instability introduced by the addition of wind energy. </p>
<p>If those data centres ran their diesel generators on bio-diesel you would have green energy facilitating the uptake of more wind energy on the grid!</p>
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