Comments on: Smart Grids and unlocked Smart Meters http://greenmonk.net/smart-grids-and-unlocked-smart-meters/ Green from the roots up, Sustainable from the top down Wed, 23 May 2012 15:02:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Q http://greenmonk.net/smart-grids-and-unlocked-smart-meters/#comment-4977 Q Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:49:41 +0000 http://greenmonk.net/?p=597#comment-4977 Yet another way for big brother to monitor and control your life. Welcome to socialism. Yet another way for big brother to monitor and control your life. Welcome to socialism.

]]> By: REALLY Smart Meters! http://greenmonk.net/smart-grids-and-unlocked-smart-meters/#comment-4451 REALLY Smart Meters! Tue, 09 Dec 2008 13:26:06 +0000 http://greenmonk.net/?p=597#comment-4451 [...] However, this is not nearly ambitious enough as far as I am concerned. First off, as I have said previously, cheaper electricity typically has a higher % of renewables in the generation mix. Therefore, if I am getting a smart meter, I want it to be a very smart meter. I want my meter to be going out across the grid, checking the realtime price from all utilities and dynamically sourcing the energy from the cheapest supplier at any given time. Nothing too new there, I have written about that concept previously. [...] [...] However, this is not nearly ambitious enough as far as I am concerned. First off, as I have said previously, cheaper electricity typically has a higher % of renewables in the generation mix. Therefore, if I am getting a smart meter, I want it to be a very smart meter. I want my meter to be going out across the grid, checking the realtime price from all utilities and dynamically sourcing the energy from the cheapest supplier at any given time. Nothing too new there, I have written about that concept previously. [...]

]]> By: Tom Raftery http://greenmonk.net/smart-grids-and-unlocked-smart-meters/#comment-4411 Tom Raftery Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:40:13 +0000 http://greenmonk.net/?p=597#comment-4411 Indarki, thanks for stopping by and commenting. I understand that you can change utility co. in Spain and that you don't need to change meter but that may change when the utilities here in Spain start to roll out Smart Meters. The utility co.s need to invest several hundred euros for each meter they roll out. They will want a return on that investment (a bit like the mobile phone companies - if you buy a phone from them, they get you to sign a contract to stay with them for a set period). With the utilities, if you wish to switch before they have a return on the investment in their smart meter, they may require their meter back (or have agreements with the other meter co.'s to take over the cost of the meter). The main thing I want to see is a smart meter which is utility neutral and which can go out and find the cheapest utility to pull electricity from at any time of the day so I am constantly minimising my costs! Indarki,

thanks for stopping by and commenting.

I understand that you can change utility co. in Spain and that you don’t need to change meter but that may change when the utilities here in Spain start to roll out Smart Meters.

The utility co.s need to invest several hundred euros for each meter they roll out. They will want a return on that investment (a bit like the mobile phone companies – if you buy a phone from them, they get you to sign a contract to stay with them for a set period).

With the utilities, if you wish to switch before they have a return on the investment in their smart meter, they may require their meter back (or have agreements with the other meter co.’s to take over the cost of the meter).

The main thing I want to see is a smart meter which is utility neutral and which can go out and find the cheapest utility to pull electricity from at any time of the day so I am constantly minimising my costs!

]]> By: Indarki http://greenmonk.net/smart-grids-and-unlocked-smart-meters/#comment-4403 Indarki Wed, 26 Nov 2008 10:19:30 +0000 http://greenmonk.net/?p=597#comment-4403 Sorry... I made a mistake (because of writing too quickly in English, which isn't my mother tongue): Nowadays, in Spain, you CAN change utility co. and you don`t need to change de meter. Sorry… I made a mistake (because of writing too quickly in English, which isn’t my mother tongue):
Nowadays, in Spain, you CAN change utility co. and you don`t need to change de meter.

]]> By: Drew Clark http://greenmonk.net/smart-grids-and-unlocked-smart-meters/#comment-4337 Drew Clark Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:04:26 +0000 http://greenmonk.net/?p=597#comment-4337 Tom, great point and let's hope that these new devices become consumer appliances and are looked upon as an essential part of a house or office infrastructure. As IP-addressable appliances, naturally they will possess the ability to seek out the best match between spot market price and the local "energy policy" set by the homeowner or business. One company I have been following that looks like they "get" this is Energy Hub (http://www.energyhub.net/Home.html), a small startup that is delivering an appliance which allows consumers to take direct action to reduce their energy usage costs. Cool things start to happen when individual usage information is mashed-up with real-time rate and load information from utilities. Drew Tom, great point and let’s hope that these new devices become consumer appliances and are looked upon as an essential part of a house or office infrastructure. As IP-addressable appliances, naturally they will possess the ability to seek out the best match between spot market price and the local “energy policy” set by the homeowner or business. One company I have been following that looks like they “get” this is Energy Hub (http://www.energyhub.net/Home.html), a small startup that is delivering an appliance which allows consumers to take direct action to reduce their energy usage costs. Cool things start to happen when individual usage information is mashed-up with real-time rate and load information from utilities.

Drew

]]> By: Phoebe Bright http://greenmonk.net/smart-grids-and-unlocked-smart-meters/#comment-4321 Phoebe Bright Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:12:38 +0000 http://greenmonk.net/?p=597#comment-4321 Maybe sometime in the future, suppliers will become redundant. Our meters will negotiate directly with generators IT via some sort of market mechanism. We could purchase future energy based on our normal usage pattern and purchase spur of the moment electricity at best price. But may not just yet! Maybe sometime in the future, suppliers will become redundant. Our meters will negotiate directly with generators IT via some sort of market mechanism. We could purchase future energy based on our normal usage pattern and purchase spur of the moment electricity at best price. But may not just yet!

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