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	<title>Comments on: On HP Labs, Sustainability, Energy Demand Management and Bit Miles</title>
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		<title>By: Living In De-material World: On Microsoft and Bit Miles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Living In De-material World: On Microsoft and Bit Miles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] written a fair bit here about Bit Miles (the moral imperative to digitise) and business process dematerialisation, so I was particularly interested in a recent trip to Microsoft&#8217;s gaming and world simulation [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ICT could deliver approximately 7.8 GtCO2e of emissions savings in 2020 at Greenmonk: the blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>ICT could deliver approximately 7.8 GtCO2e of emissions savings in 2020 at Greenmonk: the blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has, in previous posts referred to the fact that IT is responsible for 2% of the world&#8217;s CO2 emissions but that it [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tim Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good take, James.  Favorite line: &quot;Donâ€™t make things manifest unless you actually need to.&quot;  This grows out of the fundamental difference between industrial reality today and industrial reality throughout the 20th century -- i.e. that energy is now expensive instead of cheap.

We&#039;ve had more than 100 years of being able to think, &quot;Ah, let &#039;er rip -- we can afford it.&quot;  And so that&#039;s what we&#039;ve done.  But now we&#039;re constrained, so it&#039;s going to take the kind of thinking that HP is doing and that Greenmonk is doing to navigate that change.  It&#039;s like the difference between designing a luxury house and designing a luxury yacht:  the *fundamental* considerations for the yacht are &quot;How much space will it take?&quot; and &quot;How much will it weigh?&quot; -- concerns that are trivial for an architect designing a mansion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good take, James.  Favorite line: &#8220;Donâ€™t make things manifest unless you actually need to.&#8221;  This grows out of the fundamental difference between industrial reality today and industrial reality throughout the 20th century &#8212; i.e. that energy is now expensive instead of cheap.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve had more than 100 years of being able to think, &#8220;Ah, let &#8216;er rip &#8212; we can afford it.&#8221;  And so that&#8217;s what we&#8217;ve done.  But now we&#8217;re constrained, so it&#8217;s going to take the kind of thinking that HP is doing and that Greenmonk is doing to navigate that change.  It&#8217;s like the difference between designing a luxury house and designing a luxury yacht:  the *fundamental* considerations for the yacht are &#8220;How much space will it take?&#8221; and &#8220;How much will it weigh?&#8221; &#8212; concerns that are trivial for an architect designing a mansion.</p>
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